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Old 6th June 2009, 12:27
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Default In tribute - blast from the past.

I was moderating the next backup disc in the SFF-2 archive series and I came upon the image posted below. It is a capture from somewhere around the last day of the SFF (now sometimes known as the SFF-1).
The SFF was the predecessor of the SFF-2/3 and the first of it's kind. As far as I am aware, that forum only lasted about a year (please, correct me in a post below if I am wrong), nonetheless, it was the first, the catalyst for all that followed.

Finding that image and the memories it invoked has inspired me to start this thread. Of course, there have been a few 'pretender' forums over the years, and some excellent forums with a more specific scope, particularly in the Smoking Celeb arena... but I think it's true to say the SFF, SFF-2 and SFF-3, due to the excellence of it's members, have continued through the years to be the only genuine wider community for those with our fetish. This thread exists to pay tribute to the founding fathers of the SFF, SFF-2 and SFF-3 and the start of the popular Internet Smoke Fetish era.

The thread will be an ongoing work, I shall add new posts representing new changes over time... and I encourage all others to posts their recollections, or even just say 'Hi' if you are from that era.


There have been sources for smoke fetish material since the early days on the Internet. Some might remember Cigfetish'es 'tripod' pages where he first hosted smokingcelebs. Eurosmoke has been around since those days. And never forgetting the newsgroups and ASFS which for a long time was the only source of material....

But really the new Internet era for the wider smoke fetish all began when Steelgut started the SFF in 2001. He was the inspiration behind all that was to follow. He was helped of course, some might remember Matt who played a big part as well. The moderators - Yasmine, Panther (still a member here), War_demon (still a member here under a new name and the true founder of the SFF-2) and others.
I know she stopped posting on the SFF before it's demise, but Yasmine was an important contributor to the SFF and unless it was under a different name, never joined the SFF-2, wonder what happened to her ?

Also not forgetting Rasmon (and Kozmos!), Veronika, Collect-er, Rugenyes, Multiple Angelo, Ailak, Acciderbino, Bubba, Karen, Newsmoker (Rachel), Purgatorio, Aussiebabe, Mat_sui, Miss_vogue (Niesha), Arneex, Katee, J*A*I*M*E (Internet Angel), Youngensfire, Micheal C, Britblonde (and The Pic Taker!) and Kindredspirit amongst many others.
Some of those became part of the first team of moderators on the SFF-2, in fact, virtually all of the SFF-2's first moderator team were from that forum but unfortunately I personally do not know/remember their SFF-1 usernames so I haven't put them all in that list.
A surprizing number are around today on the SFF-3 with the same name, or similar names. There may even be some from those times registered under completely different names. Who knows!
There are, of course, a lot missing from that list, and I apologise if I remembered anyones name wrongly, my memory is not perfect.

I think the image included in this post was provided by War_demon for me to use as a template for the SFF-2, but I can't be sure. Even so, thinking back, I am quite surprized how similar the enclosed image is to the initial SFF-2. We obviously copied the colours, the infamous 'burgundy' and dark grey. We also appeared to copy the forum names and descriptions almost as much. I didn't remember that. LOL. If you know what to look for, you can still see traces of those original titles and headings in a couple of places on the SFF-3 even today

I remember also the SFF-1 had a 500K upload limit (that's half a meg!!! confirmed if you study the image ), but despite that, had many prolific posters. I guess images/movies being way smaller back then. We were proud of our 2MB upload limit when the SFF-2 opened it's doors in Sept 2002!

Why the SFF-1 ended is a bit of a mystery, no reason was given for why the SFF-1 closed it's doors. Many reasons were discussed, and it's true some issues were getting 'heated' (underage, pregnant teenagers etc.) on the forum, and it was virtually 'running wild'. There were theories, but no official explanation was given and as far as I know, Steelgut never returned to explain. Suffice to say, that forum, Steelgut and Matt in particular, well, they kicked it all off, we have a lot to thank them for.




Please feel free to comment and add your own tribute and/or own memories.
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Interesting read, thanks Tipster. This was all well before my time (didn't get onto SFF2 until '05). Recognise a few names there, but lots of people I have never heard of. Wonder how many are still around under new usernames.
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I was in SFF1, although I think I pretty much lurked it. I particularly remember Youngensfire as the forum sweetheart, a genuine mature "my kind of smoker" lady, who didn't seem at all surprised at our "fondness."
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A little bit more info about Matt (His username was 'Mat' for some reason ).

Matt Landry was one of the true pioneers. It was he who started (and ran) the alt.sex.fetish.smoking newsgroup in 1993. The first mass available source for smoking fetish material that I am aware of.

As stated in the first post, he was a key member of SFF-1. I actually do not know if he joined SFF-2, many 'Matts' did, but I can't remember if any of them identified themselves as Matt Landry.

There is search engine evidence of him around at Vesperaes smoking ethics board in 2004. And I have always wondered, is Matt Landry the 'Matt' who runs the (smoking) 'Dark Side Forum' ? I should ask one day

In any event, Steelgut was responsible for SFF-1, but Matt played a big part in getting us to where we are now as well.


I think it's a good idea to record the history.


If either Steelgut or Matt are around, I would love for them to make themselves known...

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Well I was there too.

Well I remember the the day when I first found the SFF on my brand new TIme machine (500MHz of pure power). It was exciting to find a group of people that had the same fetish as me. I joined the board quite late and was only there for about three months before all change to SFF-2. I do remember a lot of the names like bubba and youngensfire, as shown in the screen shot, but SteelGut and Mat elude me. It is quite a thought that this forum is what it is today from those humble beginings. I personally think I have been on quite a journey especially when I was appointed moderator, my fetish has grown and have enjoyed being a part of it all.
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Yes i was in there a few months after it all started ,i remember bubba's Dmz the first safe zone ,and the poster i best remember was ICEYOU what a prolific poster for those times,anyone know what happened to him,i always hoped that he would re-appear some day.
Oh the 486 and the saving of pics on to floppy disks a big movie was 2 meg here's one of my very first pics ,i had to check my older machine here had a floppy drive ,this pic is 38 kb file name pic No. 5 much smaller than what we share today.
I think i will start a thread later and upload from my sff1 floppy's
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I just looked at Tipsters SFF1 main page capture ,i see myself

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I think i will start a thread later and upload from my sff1 floppy's
That would be so cool, actually older material than the stuff I am uploading from the early SFF-2 archive.

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I just looked at Tipsters SFF1 main page capture ,i see myself

Smoking fetish video's 07/31/2002 Fishflaps that was me ,my post good lord
You were Fishflaps! LOL. Great username

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I do remember a lot of the names like bubba and youngensfire, as shown in the screen shot, but SteelGut and Mat elude me.
Bubba was the inspiration behind the first SFF-2 Safe Zone as mentioned above, "Bubba's DMZ" (De-Militarized Zone). One of the best ideas anyone came up with for this forum and obviously endures even today.

Youngensfire was a moderator on the SFF-2 for a while, I remember her as well liked, but I can't remember why she left. Too long ago unfort. If your around Youngensfire, say 'hi' !!!
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I was into fish before the parrots ,anyway i will start a sff1 tribute thread perhaps some members could add some early pics to it,that would be a nice trip to the past.
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